You’ve probably heard of having skin in the game, but what about having soul in the game? Having soul, in whatever game you choose, brings purpose and meaning to life. Our guest today learned about putting his soul into his work and finding true purpose from his parents. Vitaliy Katsenelson grew up in a small Russian town and saw the struggles and sacrifices his parents made to give him and his siblings a great life. Vitaliy shares the lessons he learned and why money is secondary to finding purpose in life.
That’s not all for today though. In our headline segment, we’re brining up Gamestop stock again, but not for the reason you might think. The SEC is holding the magnifying glass to a little term called payment for order flow which became its own scandal during the Gamestop stock craze. We share what it means and why it matters. We also answer David’s question about helping his mom find new work after an injury and Doug will share his trivia.
Enjoy!
Our Headline
- FTC Considers Restricting the Use of Noncompete Clauses by Companies (The Wall Street Journal)
Vitaliy Katsenelson

Big thanks to Vitaliy for joining us today. Hear more from Vitaliy at his website and grab a copy of his book Soul in the Game: The Art of a Meaningful Life. As a bonus to our listeners, Vitaliy is offering to send everyone who purchases his book four extra chapters that he wrote. Go to soulinthegame.net and send him a picture of your receipt to redeem the extra chapters.
Doug’s Trivia
- What city’s river caught fire, prompting the creation of the EPA?

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- My mother hurt her knee and can no longer do the work she’s been doing for the last decade and she won’t like a desk job. What are some ideas for her to earn an income?
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Other Mentions
- The Side Hustle Nation podcast
- Why We Sleep by Matthew Walker
Written by: Brooke Miller
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